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Snake Oil
Posted 14/5/2012 20:41 (#97365)
Subject: Hello from the north west!


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Hey all, I'm not very good at these introduction thingys so I'll keep it short n sweet

I've quite recently got into exploring and photographing stuff with underground definitely being my favourite. I've done a few culverts and drains and was lucky enough to be invited to explore a mine a few weeks back (I already recognise a lot of names on here! )

I have my eye on a few in North Wales after seeing other peoples photos so would love to see them for myself. I'm 'apparently' easily led (according to the wife!) so up for all sorts of stuff (so long as its suitable for the 'larger' gentleman! )

If anyone fancies a mooch at stuff I've been up to so far, theres photos at http://www.snakeoil-urbex.co.uk/
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owdsnuffy
Posted 14/5/2012 20:52 (#97366 - in reply to #97365)
Subject: RE: Hello from the north west!



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Hi, welcome, some nice pics you have on there!
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rtaylor
Posted 15/5/2012 07:04 (#97374 - in reply to #97366)
Subject: Re: Hello from the north west!



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Location: Cumbria		Hi
Where in the North west are you. I'm up in Cumbria if you aren't too far away.
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jakeofwinterhill
Posted 15/5/2012 16:56 (#97378 - in reply to #97365)
Subject: Re: Hello from the north west!



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Location: Near Winter Hill Horwich		Hi , from Jake you took a photo of me next to a pit prop
great Pics !
Jake of Winter Hill
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.co.uk
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Snake Oil
Posted 15/5/2012 23:01 (#97389 - in reply to #97365)
Subject: Re: Hello from the north west!


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Thanks Owdsnuffy, I hope to add a few more underground stuff

I'm just outside Manchester, so Cumbria is a fair trek but not totally out of reach

Hi Jake! Hows things?
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jakeofwinterhill
Posted 16/5/2012 07:41 (#97391 - in reply to #97365)
Subject: Re: Hello from the north west!



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Location: Near Winter Hill Horwich		My dad took me to Cwmorthin Slate Quarry with a guide ,and Oakeley Slate Quarry we had to be careful for that one !
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.de/2012/05/unknown-mine.html we went in Cesail which is above Oakeley !
see you around !
Jake
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lizzie81
Posted 18/5/2012 15:42 (#97409 - in reply to #97365)
Subject: Re: Hello from the north west!


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Wow, well done Jake and so young. I just checked out your pics where I've got to admit you do look like your lovin it but 8 years old...I don't know if I'd want to be taking my kids down somewhere so dangerous so young. Now it sounds like Im telling you off, which Im not so great pics, well done :-)
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jakeofwinterhill
Posted 18/5/2012 16:35 (#97411 - in reply to #97365)
Subject: Re: Hello from the north west!



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Location: Near Winter Hill Horwich		http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-V5xlzNp5GV8/T6fIZ3_2SDI/AAAAAAAAJ-E/Th87b... Jake has low presence kit on him here , it meets or exceeds fell running standards , he has a full overnight survival kit, GPS tracker, torch whistle , map ,compass ,MS2000 strobe, phone, food. Jake is trained to find safe water. The trainers he uses are walsh PB race, they will stick to anything wet or dry , Jake also has tested these to limits so knows when they will no longer grip or there is a risk, http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Z2gPLoWfFOY/T6fI4SuAXaI/AAAAAAAAJ-c/hwDIK... shows you the environment Jake will go across , this took under 20 mins to go up 600 ft straight up and across keeping a contour for just under a mile. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tgFdik7Hewc/T6fRBafb78I/AAAAAAAAKI0/9KMwG... Jake has swapped to underground kit , his kit has changed to duel coat -like keela munro , two 12 hour light sticks, backup light, some spares for keeping dry and this was for a 10 minute explore http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-X0pBadtK_Y0/T6fR__AW45I/AAAAAAAAKKs/RNJ1N... this shows the third variation speed , this is a fast down section with the weather now around 2 and feel factor around -4 Jake switches to high viz gortex plus hi viz vest , the mines so far / underground with a leading expert in coal mines adult to Jake 3:1 , slate mine 2:1 with a expert in this mine, every tunnel and passage way , risk is still there agreed, Jake encounters risk on winter hill, we manage that risk through my skill and my training of Jake, Jake can read a compass, navigate in driving wind/rain at night , in snow, day or night , we always leave a comfort zone, if we are not sure or Jake is not happy we turn back there is always another day or perhaps we decide the risk is too much Whist i understand your concern , age and disability should not be a barrier to pushing himself i can assure you he wants to do more but realises he needs understanding and skills , Jake is a remarkable person and very special if you met him you would realise, Jake is more at risk on a playground due to his disability and his inability to understand social situations thanks for you comments but I wanted to set the record straight on how carefully I take Jakes safety , we don't rely on technology but Experience, Skill* taught and through experience and equipment, but most of all common sense! Simon

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lizzie81
Posted 18/5/2012 17:02 (#97412 - in reply to #97411)
Subject: Re: Hello from the north west!


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Actually I didn't want to look like a nutter but I was considering writing a second one after my first before you replied. It is sometimes hard to detach from being a 'smother mother' to acknowledging that it's no different in a way to sending my daughter to Gymnastics, she'd hate it if I stopped her out of fear that she might fall off the parrallel bars! Because looking at further pics and trip reports you can see just how seriously you do take his safety. And as a 'newbie' I am fascinated by his inherent skill and thought for what he is doing which are obvious from the blog. That's some serious kit on Jake too, a future Dave Bicks in the making! I am definately going to be a follower of the blog from now on...hey sorry didn't mean to sound condescending at all, my fingers were on the keys with the first post before I had put my brain into gear. Liz
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jakeofwinterhill
Posted 18/5/2012 17:28 (#97414 - in reply to #97365)
Subject: Re: Hello from the north west!



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Location: Near Winter Hill Horwich		Liz,
to get this kit right ,
background the family lived in the Czech republic for 3 years , shopping was in spring done at -21 we learnt how to keep the kids warm ! Winter Hill is a great place but can bite, I lived in the lake district for 10 years and spent another 2 years being trained on how to survive hostile conditions, we never take anything for granted his mum can track where he is when out and about overland anywhere we ,
they don't make some stuff in Jakes size !
Keela munro are used by most mountain rescue teams , we use combinations of Ron hill elite and keela to get near this, Gortex (north face summit) has let me down in cold wet conditions on winter hill , for these conditions Jake uses a double ventile coat !
Jake normally has one level of equipment up from me as he is smaller and less tolerant ,
Simon
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tomcruise
Posted 2/6/2012 13:39 (#97519 - in reply to #97365)
Subject: Re: Hello from the north west!


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hi from the east west !
Lol !
How are you guys ?
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